Sun, Moon, and Talia (Giambattista Basile). The Sleeping Beauty in the Wood ( Charles Perrault). Little Brier-Rose, version of (Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm). SUN, MOON, AND TALIA Fifth Diversion of the Fifth Day There once lived a great lord who was blessed with the birth of a beautiful infant. Sun, Moon, and Talia is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in his . Print/export. Create a book · Download as PDF · Printable version .
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There once lived a great lord, who was blessed with the birth of a daughter, whom he named Talia. He sent for the wise men and astrologers in his lands. from Il Pentamerone. Fifth Diversion of the Fifth Day: Sun, Moon, and Talia. Talia meets her death through a splinter in some flax and is left in a. Folktales > European folktales> Italian folktales > Sun, Moon, and Talia at World of Tales - Stories for children from around the world!.
Books by Giambattista Basile. And not only that, there is a queen because the king was married when he bumped uglies with an unconscious girl who couldn't consent or deny. New ish Layout World of Tales has a fresh new look! Sort order. The man, moved on the one side by fear, and on the other pricked by interest, which is a bandage to the eyes of honour, the blind of justice, and an old horse-shoe to trip up good faith, told the Queen the whole truth. I did not really understand the morals of these characters nor the moral of the story itself. Views Read Edit View history.
Very intriguing…I want to find out more! Fatalism is the worst mentality you can ever adopt. One must always struggle to the better, regardless of what seems to be your destiny.
Would make a great film for adults. Both probably existed in earlier folk tales. These are just formal literary renderings. Such a sweet sweet touching story…I am so happy that the story had such a happy ending. Love is so powerful. Hi, I totally misunderstood the story.
But I re-read it and understand that its about rape. Thanking you.
Many thanks Aveen. I find the story interesting to say the least. Strange that we got disneys version from this, but I supose you can find a plot to a good movie even in the strangest places.
He was a scumbag who raped her despite already being married to someone else.
What is so sweet about that!!! I read this profound story and I interpreted the full story,its about a prince who undergoes a horrible life filled with rape,Stockholm syndrome and crying. The two women are the ultimate victims here. The problem is they made bad decisions. Talia was sleep-raped. Not even regular sleep, deep-kinda-like-dead sleep.
And the wife, she was cheated on by the man she married. The King would have been the only baddy of the story.
Like, how stupid is she? This man had sex with you while you were unconscious, does that not make you question his morals? And then the wife… I could understand the hurting the other woman part. But the kids too? So yes, I have very mixed feelings. I mean, sure, the family ended up together and now they can start their happily ever after. But does the end justify the means in this situation? I really like your practical contemporary analysis.
On the other hand, the king showed very bad taste in women. I suppose at the time, the conventions of leaving the queen in her post and taking a concubine was the simplest way to deal with a dead relationship. Remember that divorce was not available back then.
SoS — remember that the two women are merely fictional characters written by a male generations ago. Did anyone else follow the link to Gutenburg? There is no wife, and no sleep-rape in that version. He admires her, and then leaves. Too random kids wander in, and wake her, he come back, and his stepmother finds out about it and tries to kill them. Not the Disney version, kind of an early mashup of the Giambattista Basile version which is super creepy and definitely not Disney approved and the one we basically all know, the […].
I guess its difficult for us to grasp how very different life was years ago. Throughout history there is evidence of kings having bastard children and rape, it wasnt questioned.
Its very hard to decipher the true meaning to this fable.
I hardly think its meant to be believed on face value,if one does I rather think the point will be completely misunderstood it is a fairy tale after all. When he returns, he finds that Talia has given birth to twins, named Sun and Moon. The story doesn't just talk about what is in effect non-consensual sex, there's also attempted cannibalism. They are not , they are more like nightmare or horror tales Similarly here what happens to Sleeping Beauty being raped while unconscious a similar case in USA that happened this year in a University Campus caused a justifiable uproar and imprisonment , in the 17th century there were different morals and this was seen almost divine.
Moreover this parallels the story in the bible where Mary became pregnant by the Holy Spirit. This is seen as a blessing.
In similar vein, the rape mentioned in this story was seen actually as a blessing since it was performed by a king. Hence the words used making love. I think that he was trying to get himself killed.
She passes new laws that give women equality and makes a rape regardless of gender a death penalty offense with the added bonus of a humiliating statue to stand to their crime forever..
Over time the kingdom reaches a balance in its populace that allows every person to excel based on their merits rather than any gender, or race etc. The king goes down in history as a museum piece dedicated to ending rape, molestation, pedophilia etc regardless of who commited the crime! Your email address will not be published. Mark Charlton. Thanks for stopping by Mark. I hope Disney was not able to extend their copyright on our shared mythology via the new film.
Aveen Singh. The real. Hi Sos, I really like your practical contemporary analysis. This left me speechless…….
We are very excited to share our proposed edits to the current concept, which are enclosed. You know the villains are the villains because they are being killed by you. There is no moral dilemma. No questioning. This is what we seek to challenge and change with this concept. We have kept the traditional opening, and then slowly taken the story in a different direction. The king has insecurities, and the princess can make her own decisions.
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